tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623721153002721356.post8052450040654065536..comments2024-03-27T12:40:09.015+00:00Comments on Three Thousand Versts of Loneliness: Flagging Labour will be replaced by a government with a different outlookOwen Polleyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00567787385096905811noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623721153002721356.post-37625165719261021532021-01-10T21:08:13.448+00:002021-01-10T21:08:13.448+00:00golden goose
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http://tinyurl.co...If you mean this wiki reference:<br />http://tinyurl.com/m8zbqo<br />I think they've got the citzenship but largely correctO'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531858236570346203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623721153002721356.post-49865590036516709912009-08-06T23:58:50.413+01:002009-08-06T23:58:50.413+01:00Mind you have you seen the Wiki reference on it al...Mind you have you seen the Wiki reference on it all? Beyond a joke. In fact anything to do with Northern Ireland is a joke on Wikipedia, it doesn't take much digging, for instance on the NI talk/discussion page to work out that there are forces at work giving a deliberate bias in one political direction for anything connected to NI and the troubles including citizenship in Northern Ireland. It is beyond the pale, if you'll excuse the cliche.Garynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623721153002721356.post-72540904622709130792009-08-06T22:12:47.619+01:002009-08-06T22:12:47.619+01:00Thank you O'Neill! Much appreciated.Thank you O'Neill! Much appreciated.Garynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623721153002721356.post-2402711217436481662009-08-06T20:58:25.928+01:002009-08-06T20:58:25.928+01:00"Is there any text about that you guys could ..."Is there any text about that you guys could point me towards that explicitly states that the Belfast Agreement does not supercede the UK Nationality Act 1981?"<br /><br /><br />For the UK Nationality Act to no longer apply to NI then:<br /><br />1. The full act needed to have been repealed (it wasn't).<br />2. There would have been a clause in the B.A saying that it no longer applies to NI (there wasn't).<br /><br />The B.A says that it is now possible for people born in NI to regard themselves (ie their national identity) as British/Irish/both or neither but on citizenship it simply states that it is now possible to have both British and Irish citizenship-that "both" is the key word, ie it's not an "either/or". If you're born in NI you remain automatically a British citizen unless you ask the Home Secretary to revoke it.O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531858236570346203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623721153002721356.post-28709980958881742922009-08-06T17:15:55.172+01:002009-08-06T17:15:55.172+01:00Is there any text about that you guys could point ...Is there any text about that you guys could point me towards that explicitly states that the Belfast Agreement does not supercede the UK Nationality Act 1981?Garynoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623721153002721356.post-26367442725370492742009-08-06T15:07:57.070+01:002009-08-06T15:07:57.070+01:00Here's a corker for you O'Neill. Unionist...<a href="http://sluggerotoole.com/index.php/weblog/comments/a-well-planned-operation-to-shield-the-men-from-the-media/" rel="nofollow">Here's</a> a corker for you O'Neill. Unionists responsible for all the IRA's murders. Robert McCartney's family don't have a justifiable grievance because other Irish people have 'suffered'.Owen Polleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00567787385096905811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623721153002721356.post-7061298743541617992009-08-06T10:33:35.486+01:002009-08-06T10:33:35.486+01:00Contrary to nationalist claims, the Good Friday Ag...<em>Contrary to nationalist claims, the Good Friday Agreement did not establish the right to hold either British or Irish citizenship</em><br /><br />I had one of my rare ventures into the parallel universe that is the Slugger's Comment zone to "argue" that point last week. <br /><br />My only conclusion is that there are in fact 2 GFAs floating about out there. <br /><br />The one I've seen reads the same as yours. When I informed the nationalst hordes on Slugger that the UK Nationality Act of 1981 (ie everybody born in the UK is from birth automatically a UK citizen) still applies in NI, I was told that it wasn't "relevant", "the GFA gives everybody in NI automatic Irish citizenship", "I'm not interested in all that legal nonsense, I know I'm Irish" and finally "nobody has the right to tell me I'm British".<br /><br />I gave up and went for a beer in the end- I think Mick Fealty may have had a premonition of the quality of *debate* that would be on offer, the thread was entitled something along the lines of "Does the UK government think the Irish are stupid?"O'Neillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02531858236570346203noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-2623721153002721356.post-7367587498540042602009-08-05T22:17:59.052+01:002009-08-05T22:17:59.052+01:00I shan't be buying an identity card, unless th...I shan't be buying an identity card, unless they offer me one free.<br /><br />I have a driving licence & a British passport, which is ample.<br /><br />BTW, I see no valid reason why the image of the Union Jack shouldn't be used as an obvious means of identification or recognition on any card. It is certainly more recognizable, in an international sense, than the royal coat-of-arms.<br /><br />TimTimothy Belmonthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15111145260662707575noreply@blogger.com